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from wyatt, the fiscal cliff also includes 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. congressional democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport security are nothing new. but if the u.s. government goes over the fiscal cliff, they could get even longer. according to one congressional analysis, the transportation security administration would lose more than $640 million in funding, roughly 7% of out budget. t.s.a. with would also lose over 7,000 security officers. safety would not be compromised. the passenger misery would increase. >> it could be a severe impact on the traveling public. instead of maybe one hour, you may be there two or three hou
like a republican. >> stop, get out of here. the fiscal cliff is defense cuts and high taxes welcome to the republican party. >> rational people say that's not a good thing to do. i would hope that robert and sober behavior before new year's eve would land like an alien rocketship in washington and get these people to the table. >> greg: alice, you are sane, i believe. what do you make of this? the point i'm trying to make is why are the democrats scared of the fiscal cliff when it defines basically their ultimate dream? the democrats are anxious. they are embracing the fiscal cliff. we got obamaened a democrats in the conservative thunder bird ready to put the pedal to the metal on the fiscal cliff. they can raise taxes. they can cut military spending and they can blame the g.o.p. when the g.o.p. is doing the smart thing here wanted pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out of control spending. fixing this problem is not going to be easy but it's not complicated. we can't rely on raising taxes. we have to focus on cutting spending. that's what republicans are doing. even
. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was sequester. the sequester would automatically cut more than $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs and now as the deadline draws close, experts are looking at the cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about heir safety of the service members. >> and that is going to affect the operational force deployed in terms of its ability to maintain its equipment to quiet re-- get repair parts and that is around the world, not just in afghanistan being reduced and it would impact on the training of the force and the preparedness to conduct other operations. >> reporter: white house officials are saying that it's still unclear what is going to happen with the sequester o. fr
steps away from the fiscal cliff. the automatic tax increases and spending cuts kick in january 1 unless lawmakers find some common ground. cbs reporter danielle nottingham on what both sides are saying about the looming deadline. >> reporter: congressional leaders met with president obama at the white house, trying to avoid the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in january 1. the president reminded lawmakers there's not much time left. >> we're now at the point where, in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. >> reporter: senators harry reid and mitch mcconnell returned to the senate floor, pledging to work through the weekend. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> we're gonna do the best we can for the caucuses we have and the country that's waiting for us to make a decision. >> reporter: democratic and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. but the income threshol
down. >>> going over the fiscal cliff will have several impacts on your wallet. a 2% payroll tax cut and a series of other temporary tax cuts will expire, along with other credits and deductions. your grocery costs, especially for dairy products, could suddenly skyrocket. federal long-term jobless benefits would expire. but the price of gas could actually go down because of the declining demand. another tax you'll see rise is the estate tax. cbs reporter john blackstone shows us how tumbling off the fiscal cliff could destroy the legacy of a napa valley vineyard. >> reporter: when his great grandfather started farming her in the late 1800s... >> they farmed orchard fruit and cattle. >> reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold, to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. >> had to sell all of it. >> estate taxes? >> yes. >> reporter: his grandfather died in 1972 when estate taxes were at an all-time high, 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. it was, you know, half a million dollars. we sold off 150 acres. it gave us something to pay the tax with. >> reporter: now, j
on what could keep the nation from falling off the fiscal cliff. >> there is an app for just about everything, now, being cute on video. >>> there is movement in wad on a possibly tax cut deal that could avoid the dread td fiscal cliff. president met with house and senate leaders from both parties. president obama later revealed senate majority and minority leaders working behind closed doors right now to koum come up with a deal. he says he's optimistic but he talked about a back up plan. >> will urge senator read to bring a basic package to preproe detective the middle class from a hike. >> no details given but sources indicate the president did not make a new offer to republicans and pushed for a bill stopping looming tax increases on families earning less than $250,000 a year. >> a 24-year-old woman charged in qex killing of two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york on christmas eve. dawn nguyen accused of file filing a falsified business record, investigators say charges relate to purchase of an ar 15 rifle, and 12 gauge shotgun the shooter had when the firefighters were
. if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost four trillion, is it? >> it's not a lot of the total number, half of that goes to defense which are own admirals and generals have said and secretary of defense would be devastating. this comes on top of -- $50 billion in one year to the defense. and it doesn't touch at all medicare and the other entitlement programs. >> gregg: biggest drivers and cost and absolutely nothing has been done about those things? >> it's criminal. she is things are going to destroy us. we can live with higher taxes, you might not think it's the best idea on the rich. i think it's a way to go about it but we can't survive we are without adjusting our entitlement reform unless it is addressed. >> gregg: jamie weinstein, it's criminal -- i didn't take it that far but you do did. >> without a fiscal cliff teal the pentagon is bracing for $500 billion but that is over the next decade and raises questions how military leaders plan to keep the nation safe. >> last
thunderbird ready to put the pedal to the metal on the fiscal cliff. they can cut taxes, spending, and blame the gop. the gop is doing the smart thing and pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out-of-control spending. fixing the not going to be easy, but it's not complicated. we can't just rely on raising taxes. we have to look at cutting spending and the republicans are doing that, even more so with gite ner pointing out the -- geithner pointing out the fact, warning us on the debt ceiling. this shows us we have out of control spending and raising taxes is not going to get us out of this mess. >> alice, you realize that most americans think you need a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts. it's not just one half of the deal. this is republicans and democrats, about 70% of americans, so it's not just a one-sided deal, and the second thing to say is, you know, these guys aren't that far apart. you know, in fact, when you look at how much revenue boehner has put on the table, he's close to a trillion dollars and he's just simply saying i want a trillion dollars in spending cu
years ago shall the spending cuts, the fiscal cliff, it was designed to force washington to deal with the nation's long-term debt problem. and instead, here we are, a final hour, who knows what will happen next and i want to specifically ask you about the lack of progress on those structural issues like entitlement spending because even the plan c isn't touching that. so that means regardless of what happens before january 1st, investors will then be dealing with a certain degree of political risk long-term after the fiscal cliff deadline has passed. so, how will that affect the market on the economy in terms of spending cuts? >> well, my fear is that the compromise will be that we get the tax increases and they postpone the spending cuts and that's the ultimate objective. >> yes he. >> and you know, that is something that the economy will recover from and something will adjust to. remember, about half of the increased taxes on the average individual come from simply the roll off of that fica tax break we received the last two years, so, you know, the tax increases inasmuch as yo
of tax cuts, which later led to a near government shutdown in 2011 and then the current fiscal cliff battle. so i got to ask this, when you were all kind of sitting around, drinking coffee and coming up with this idea, did you, you know, see all this working out? or did you even think about what the end of 2012 would be looking like? >> well, alison, let's look back a little bit and first remember how we got here. and, you're right, in 2001, we were worried about the president was worried about the storm clouds on the horizon in terms of the economy. and so we were looking for a fiscal stimulus that might be helpful to the broader economy and therefore you got the first round of bush tax cuts which reduced rates on -- marginal rates across the board. but most importantly brought the top marginal rate from 39.6% to roughly 36%. and what that did was allow top rate taxpayers who are often were individual citizens that run small businesses have the ability to have reduced tax rates and then as a consequence have that stimulus and have more capital to hire and to bring other people into
when people were starting to lose hope on the edge of the fiscal cliff the president met with leaders and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big new
the "fiscal cliff"? it is still possible but experts say with every passing hour it becomes more difficult. >> well, we're now at the last minute. the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> reporter: congressional leaders left the white house after trying to negotiate an 11th hour deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff" of tax hikes and spending cuts that begin on january 1. the president emerged shortly after admitting no deal had been reached at least not yet. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion. >> reporter: the senate is in session today and is expected to return on sunday along with the house. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> reporter: but time is clearly running out for congress. st. mary's college polit
to stop the economy falling off the fiscal cliff. talks are taking place before tax rises and spending cuts come into effect on january 1. the woman who's a gang rape sparked mass protest in india has died in hospital. doctors treating the 23-year-old say she was showing signs of severe organ failure before her death. thousands of iraqis are protesting, accusing administration of marginalizing them. the so-called fiscal quiff threatening the u.s. economy. have we are joined by an economics columnist with the washington newspaper. he says without an immediate deal, the discussion will significantly change in the new year. >> i think what we will see from the republicans is much greater flexibility as we get into the new year, if it comes to that. and, instead of voting for a tax increase, they are voting for a tax cut. the same policy, when you are voting for it on january 4, would be a tax cut. today, it would be a tax increase. it is a weird way of thinking about it, but we are a strange land, in terms of u.s. policy right now. heather is a sense the entire dynamic would change if we
as the fiscal cliff. today, the president met with congressional leaders at the white house, but the action is now in the u.s. senate, where the republican and democratic leaders are trying to find some sort of compromise. but if they can't, the president is insisting on an up and down vote on his plan in both the house and senate. the vote in the news room tonight was to have gary nurenberg fill us in. gary? >> reporter: derek, how absurd is this? almost no one wants the country to see that combination of huge spending cuts and tax increases, but month after month after month, congress has been unable to cut a deal to avoid them. how absurd is this? so absurd the president is quoting yogi berra to describe it. >> this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything has to wait until the last minute. we're now at the last minute. >> reporter: the president spoke after a meeting where republican and democratic senate leaders agreed to try to find a solution. >> we're out of town. we've
? the fiscal cliff, still looming. spending cuts and tax hikes that could shove our economy into recession. and a deadline lawmakers ignored until the very last possible minute. live pictures now of the capitol. looks beautiful. man, but there's a lot of wrangling going on there. lawmakers are back up -- had their backs up against the wall right now. and as they try to find a plan that can pass congress. let's hope they do. cnn's chief white house correspondent is jessica yellin. she is following the negotiations, working very hard on this saturday. so jess, democrats and republicans are supposedly working on a plan, even as we speak. what do we know about it? >> reporter: well, we know, don, that it's the senate leaders that are hashing this out. and what they're looking to negotiate is a deal that would extend current low tax rates for middle income americans. we don't know the exact threshold levels. so would it be people who make $400,000 and less, would it be $250,000 and less. but something that would extend low rates and then increase them above. extend probably unemployment benefit
people and cut their heads off and it would not help the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: talk now of a smaller deal that extends bush tax rates for the middle class and extends unemployment benefits. but puts off major spending cuts and reform to entitlements like medicare. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with with fiscal cliff. >> reporter: lawmakers are talking about how to retroactively avoid going off the fiscal cliff on a new congress. >>> the fiscal cliff debate is impacting people here in the bay area who's lives could dramatically change as soon as tomorrow. tom vacar is live at a highway work site in oakland and has the story of one woman and her looming fear. tom-- >> reporter: the people who work here are well paid and they're onvacaon. but for other people, the fiscal cliff might as well be a financial guillotine. though ilea thomas searches, she's been out of work for two years picking up any odd jobs as much as she can. >> it's been discouraging. i come in here three times a week and maybe i'll go to
people, we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with time running out hopes for a grand bargain have diminished with talk now of a smaller deal that extend bush tax rate for the middle class and extends unemployment benefits but puts off major spending cuts and reform to entitlements like medicare. >> we're going to end up with a small kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectations for a deal low, lawmakers are now talking about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff in the new congress. in washington nicole collins, fox news. >>> we are, of course, going to have much more on the fiscal cliff negotiations coming up at 10:30. a republican and democratic strategist will face off here and talk about the prospects for reaching a deal. >>> a strike that could have shut down ports all over the east coast have been averted for now. the longshoremen union along the east coast and the gulf of mexico says it will
, the president said he es modestly optimistic about a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which would mean avoiding automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january 1. the president spoke to the nation this evening after an hourlong meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. democrat and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. they appear to remain deadlocked on who exactly will pay those higher taxes. wo have two reports tonight, beginning with major garrett at the white house. major, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, jeff. two things are clear tonight arat were not clear this morning: progress is real, and if a deal is reached, it will be ir smaller than any of the key players envisioned only a couple weeks ago. is this deal, if it's to be reached, will not be the so- called grand bargain with trillions of dollars of deficit lionction. in fact, jeff, it's not even clear this deal-- again, if there is one-- would stop the across-the-board spending cuts ulr the defense department and peher government programs. it looks like those cu
is lifted. >> one area you would like thei. that is a fiscal cliff area. >> closed american bond fundsaee leveraged and we think the dividends are going to be cut and there is a risk we would just avoid them. >> do you own any of theserecom? >> for our discretionaryaccounte closed end accounts and the herzfeld caribbean accounts olds all of the those we spoke of. >> susie: thank you very much tom. or our market monitor tomorrow herzfeld. coming up on monday on "n.b.r." we'll be monitoring those fiscal cliff negotiations, and we'll have news and analysis. we'll also a look back at the year in stocks, and s&p's sam stovall joins us to pre-view what's next for the markets in the year ahead. it could be one of the biggest trends in business next year: companies setting aside time for their employees to play. ruben ramirez explains. >> reporter: it may be hard to remember those hot summer days on the playground. the freedom to let your mind wander. how times have changed. as companies slashed jobs during the great recession worker productivity surged, today, many people are doing the job multi
for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to speaker boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if wa
congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreemen
. the nasdaq and dow jones closed down. >>> going over that fiscal cliff will certainly impact your finances in several ways, some bad and some surprising. a series of temporary tax cuts for businesses will expire along with other credits and deductions. your grocery costs could go up. federal long term jobless benefits would expire for millions, but the price of gasoline could go down because of declining demand. >>> another tax you will see go up is the estate tax. >> reporter: jeff page owns 120- acre vineyard in napa valley. but when his great grandfather came here, this was cattle country. >> before the turn of the century they came in and farmed orchard fruit and cattle. >> reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone. >> had land in the hills over there? >> yeah. >> had to sell it all. >> yeah. >> for state tacks. >> question. >> reporter: his for died in 1972 when state taxes were 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. half a million dollars, we sold off 150-acres. >> now jeff and his wife mary worry their dream of passing the land onto their two daughters will be ruined by the fisca
a way to avert the fiscal cliff, automatic tax increases for everybody and deep spending cut that will affect the defense department and entitlement programs. what do you think? deal or no deal, and if they do reach a deal, can they get it done? >> well, they've got to reach a deal. this is just ridiculous. it was a point after the election where i actually believed -- i don't know about you -- that they had gotten the message that people wanted two houses, the president and congress, republicans and democrats. the people wanted government to work and for people to work together. there was a very short period of time when the speaker came back and he's meeting with the president and he said, maybe these children have actually grown up, with all due respect. now here we are. what are we going to do, pray? new year is tuesday? these consequences would be terrible. you've got working people whose paychecks would get eaten into. you got people who would pay higher taxes who can barely afford it now. unemployment benefits running out. this is just not okay for them to be sitting i
are desperately trying to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff today, hoping to avoid steep spending cuts and tax increases. kristin welker is at the white house where the president had a high-profile meeting with congressional lawmakers on friday. good morning. >> reporter: carl, good morning to you. all eyes are on the senate this morning as majority leader harry reid and minority leader mcconnell true to cobble together a last-minute plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama saying he is modestly optimistic that they can come up with a plan in time. on friday, president obama met with the four top congressional leaders here at the white house for about an hour. sources close to those talks say that the president gave lawmakers two options, either come up with a plan that can make it through both chambers or put his proposal up for a vote. under the president's plan, the bush-era tax cuts would be extended for those making $250,000 or less with rates allowed to raise on top income earners. it would also extend unemployment insurance benefits. president obama saying the time for action is
and the fiscal cliff drama. most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker'
of 2013. these are the people that republicans have used as pawns in the fiscal cliff debate. earlier this week, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell demanded spending cuts to offset the estimated. $30 billion cost of extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another yeaof extending the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.the federal unemployment insurance program for another year.insurance program for another yeayear. mcconnell was elected to serve the people of kentucky. so how do mcconnell and junior senator rand paul justify letting federal unemployment benefits expire for 24,000 people in their state? how can senator marco rubio allow nearly 119,000 unemployed floridians to be cut off? senators john mccain and jon kyl should be fighting for the 28,000 people who would be affected in arizona. it's not clear if they will. and the list goes on and on. unemployment benefits are vital to the economic security of millions of americans, and the continued recovery of the u.s. econom
and it's also will a strategic question. a lot of folks want something to happen on the fiscal cliff and the one thing they don't want to include is an inclusion of the debt ceiling, an extension of the debt ceiling because come next year, early next year when we hit that debt limit again, they want to have spending cuts included with the debt limit negotiations and that's where the spending cuts i predict will happen during the debt limit and not the fiscal cliff. >> what's it going to look like when we have this fight about the debt ceiling. >> robert just said that the one thing that has been brought up is the debt ceiling as part of the negotiation and the other thing that they've mentioned are the spending cuts and he'll make an offer to put those on the table and part of that is that these are not popular right now and we could have an intellectual exercise about whether they should be, about whether it's proper or not, but the political reality is barack obama just wants to campaign and the liberals did very well. ? they didn't win the house. >> what's that? >> they didn't win
to be on popularity over the next few weeks if we go over the fiscal cliff and he ends up making cuts and so forth. what is going to happen is ultimately if this is is a success or a failure, it's his legacy that's going to tell the story that doesn't come down for republican's back against the walls this mess that krauthammer pointed out. what the republicans are doing mess in the house putting up this plan b and may get less than plan b they couldn't get a vote on plan b. senator corker thinks this whole thing he mentioned last night on greta is really too much spending keeping the spending and getting the tax increases, listen. >> it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows that our greatest threat is our fiscal solvency that you would have to have leverage points. you would think people would sit down and solve the problem because we know it is our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. he is obviously a spendaholic. time quickly running out for a deal washington will be working all weekend in hopes of reachi
-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means perhaps heading back into recession? >> yes, there is little doubt in washington about the seriousne
of the fiscal cliff. it will allow congress to again take another crack at finding some way to deal with spending cuts and tax reform. gerri: stay with us, rich edson. thank you so much for that report. turning now to our guests. it's up to harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the two leaders in the senate. trying to craft something. how likely is it that there would be a bill that passed the senate and house? after all, that is the problem we have had a long. >> well, first, we have not seen any details of this package. we are talking completely off-the-cuff, but we know will not be at 250. i think carrie reed has problems from new york like dianne feinstein of california, and 250 will be a big pill to swallow. this is a fiscal cliff that we can have 50 days, 60 days down the road. it does not fix the problem if you will have these taxes on $250,000 and above. as rich edson said, this is going to be another deadline in congress has to have. i think everyone needs to get comfortable with the fact that we are going to have these kinds of stopgap last-second deals. gerri: okay, let's get t
and a whole suite of things that were part of the fiscal cliff that aren't going to be touched. we'll have the debt ceiling rehash, all of these things come back in the first couple of weeks. >> we have a timeline issue here, we just -- a few days away, things have to -- things don't move quickly in washington as we know. there are rules in both houses of when things can come up, how much time has to pass for debate. they have to change rules to get it through quickly. even if senate comes up with the deal. mcconnell and harry reid come up with the deal. they accept it to the house on sunday night, monday morning. what are the chances of them getting their ducks in a row, boehner getting his ducks in a row and us still being able to avoid the krif? >> right. we should have a better sense of that by tomorrow afternoon when they start to reconvene. speaker boehner made it clear at the meeting at the white house on friday, anything that the senate passes will be considered by the house, might be amended, might be changed a bit. has to go back to the senate quick for changes. but he said will
-called fiscal cliff. the president again today called on lawmakers to act before taxes automatically go up for every american and spending cuts kick in. but republicans aren't happy with the proposal the white house is offering. so on a saturday night, washington is still at a stalemate and the public is pretty clearly growing frustrated. david gregory sat down exclusively with the president today. he'll share some insight in just a moment. first we go to nbc's kristen welker at the white house on a where the talks stand. >> reporter: good evening. sources close to the talks say there is more pessimism tonight with democrats and republicans still unable to reach a compromise, particularly over the issue of taxes. but senate negotiators aren't giving up. they're still hopeful for a breakthrough before that all important tuesday deadline. with time running out, key staffers huddled behind closed doors against the backdrop of a snowy capitol trying to hammer out a last-minute deal. in his weekly address, president obama pushed lawmakers to act. >> we cannot let washington politics get in the
leaders met face to face for the first time in weeks, in a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> warner: and i'm margaret warner. on the "newshour" tonight, we have the latest on the chances for a breakthrough-- just four days before automatic tax hikes and spending cuts hit. >> brown: then, we turn to india. ray suarez looks at the violent protests and public anger sparked by the gang rape of a young woman. >> warner: john merrow has the story of a group of california charter schools that aim to be the model-ts of education. >> america has lots of terrific schools. people open great schools every year, but they typically open just one. nobody has figured out how to mass produce high quality, cost effective schools. >> brown: we remember general norman schwarzkopf-- the man who commanded american-led forces in the persian gulf war known as "desert storm." >> warner: plus, mark shields and david brooks analyze the week's news. >> brown: that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour." >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> supp
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